Great Conversations with interesting people. 

That's what this show's all about.  This episode personifies that standard.  

Darrel Grassl Is someone I didn't know a few month ago, but when he and I got talking, I realized he has a lot of good things to say.  

We might not agree on all things but we do agree on one.  Pushing yourself to be better can be the biggest form of self love in your life.  

What does that mean? Where do you go from there?  Listen in to hear more!!