Steve Carter has incredible influence and talent. He's walked through tough seasons of ministry and coaches communicators and leaders through seasons as well. He leads one of our groups of pastors and just released a new book called The Thing Beneath The Thing. This was a fantastic conversation around sports, ministry pain, and healthy leadership.

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