I sat down with Kenny Williams aka the red ninja, one of the most well-known instructors in interdiction, and we got into what actually works out on the road. The mindset, the small details, and the things officers either miss or never get taught in the first place.

We talked about how interdiction has evolved, what separates guys who consistently find dope, guns, and money from the ones who don’t, and why behavior and reactions will always matter more than any checklist.

Kenny also broke down the Justice X Conference he’s putting together in South Carolina. Bringing a group of top instructors together, not to make money, but to actually push training forward and give officers something real they can take back to their shift.

We also hit on a big question a lot of guys struggle with… how do you show admin the value of proactive work? Is it stats, seizures, impact, or something else entirely?

This wasn’t a structured interview. It was stories, experience, and real conversation about what works, what doesn’t, and where this job is going.

If you care about getting better on the street, this is one you don’t skip.