Gemma and Emma tackle the big topic of ABANDONMENT! Uh oh. Gemma and Emma recap their challenge from last week and make a BIG announcement regarding the podcast. Listen if you want to hear why Gemma doesn't like drugs, their individual experiences of abandoning themselves, and where Emma's hyper vigilance of other people's emotions comes from.

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