In this episode of the Change Maker Playbook podcast, Coach Toby J discusses overcoming personal and professional obstacles with his guest, Robert L. White. They explore various 'gap traps' that hinder growth, including the comparison gap, and emphasize the importance of sharing personal stories to foster connection and healing. Robert shares his journey from Johnson City to Kentucky, highlighting the challenges and triumphs he faced along the way. The conversation encourages listeners to trust God during transitions and to embrace change as a pathway to growth.