Author, speaker, podcaster, and self-proclaimed disruptor Carlos Whitaker wants you to get uncomfortable.

We get it - you may not be an immediate “heck yes!” to embracing disruption in your life. Because, let's be real, who among us loves feeling uncomfortable? But, after getting this episode in your ears, you may feel differently about the potential that disruption has in your life. Ben and Carlos discuss the essential nature of disruption, how to walk alongside humans who have different beliefs than we do, and all of the ways faith - and Jesus - can catch you when you’re in the throes of it. We can't wait to hear how you integrate Carlos' teachings of how to engage lovingly and gracefully with any person and the resplendent buoyancy of his hopeful message.

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