Join Kat and Dr. Ryan for this unplanned and impromptu 'chit chat' episode where the conversation winds its way around myriad topics! They share some fun stories and insights from their daily life, different ways to be easy with your own self care practices, and the power of finding beauty in the boredom and joy in the gentleness of everyday life! 

Intro & Outro music gratefully provided by our wonderful pal Captain Luke. Cover photo by the radiant Noelle Johnson.

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