On the 11th episode of BUMPER 2 BUMPER, Chris and Rick take commercial copywriter Hilary Smith for a cruise into a carwash where she chats about her time working for a top ad agency in Los Angeles, the influence of Nora Ephron on her work and having a Bumble relapse over a year ago.

You can follow Hilary Smith at www.thehilarysmith.com or on Instagram @thehilarysmith

Watch this episode on Youtube at https://youtu.be/ZYqEQVsSW_I

Opening / Closing music by Charlie Scovill.