Always order extra real because it will be taken from your plate. Connor wants the crew to discuss podcasts as a political and quizzical form. Tom talks about podcasting the religion of human narrative. Jay recommends Welcome to Night Vale. Tom talks about collecting and restoring 18th century pipes and beware the podcasts about that particular topic. Marty wants the crew to discuss not Russia but the foreign policy paradox that is Saudi Arabia. Somehow they slip into the ease of movement in the US.