Jeff Jablon is a screenwriter and men's stylist who spent a decade inside the Hollywood machine — from a talent agency mailroom, to working alongside A-list talent at one of the industry's top management companies, to working at a production company behind $30M+ films, to a crypto company collapse, to finding his footing today. Ben reconnects with Jeff in-person for the first time ever in LA and the two talk Hollywood, screenwriting, Celine Song, and what it actually takes to just do the thing.

Discussed in this episode:

0:00 — Intro

0:57 — Jeff's Chess Teaching Gig ("A Hobby That Pays Me")

4:27 — LA Helicopters / How Long Jeff's Been in LA

6:47 — How Ben & Jeff Met

6:57 — On Being Creative vs. Pursuing Hollywood

9:57 — Jeff's Foray Into Standup

11:37 — Screenwriting as His True Passion

12:40 — Ben on Being a Cancer Survivor

15:12 — 10 Years in LA: Expectations vs. Reality

17:31 — The Hollywood Career Elevator Pitch

18:57 — The Producer Job That Did a Number on Him

22:11 — Life Coach, Crypto Collapse & Finding Suit Supply

23:57 — Why 32 Hours Beats 80 Hours

25:32 — The Two Scripts: "The Zoo" & a Romantic Comedy Feature

28:57 — Materialists, Celine Song & Modern Dating

32:57 — Aspiring for Big Picture Storytelling

37:57 — Depression, Marc Maron & LA vs. New York

44:07 — "Stop Listening to Advice and Just Do It"

45:35 — Outro

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