In this episode, Dustin talks to Isaiah Jones for the second time, a year after our first conversation. A lot has happened in the past year internally and externally, so we got on a call to dive deeper and get updates. Isaiah is an industrial designer in San Francisco. In this conversation, we talk about learning to sit with the negative emotions, his upbringing as a kid, and why his statue would be a spaceship prototype. If you liked this episode, please share it with a friend and subscribe. As always, thank you for tuning into the Earthian Podcast.