Chris Breslin speaks w/ Dr. Stanley Hauerwas' on the recent passing of his friend, Jean Vanier, the life of the church in the era of Trump, and what it means to become people of virtue & character. Dave Fitch shares the ways that Dr. Hauerwas has shaped his life & work and also shares his most recent book project, The Church of Us vs. Them. Dr. Hauerwas also reads a chapter on the virtue of Justice from his recent book of letters to his Godson. Featured music by Deeper Well Music Collective's Volume III.