Poet Karen McCarthy Woolf is the author of An Aviary of Small Birds and Seasonal Disturbances.

In a meaningful interview Karen reflects on the death of her baby son Otto. We discuss transcendence, devotion and her lifelong love of music and dancing. She reads her poem 'Argument' and we talk about making an impact and the permission to rage.

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CW: Child loss, Grief

Show host - Naomi Woddis

Originally broadcast on Reel Rebels Radio

Music : Gavin O'Brien - Citóg