This week Aaron Akulis from The Peace on Drugs Podcast joined me to finish up a conversation we began on his podcast last week. We talk about our similar religious upbringings and how we have both navigated the trauma that came with them, and we discuss belief in belief, addiction, Trump and his supporters, drugs, self-deception, patriotism, the US national anthem (verse 3), the shift in political platforms, and lots more.

You can check out Aaron's other fabulous work on his podcast at the link above, or you can start by listening to part 1 of our conversation on episode 58 of The Peace on Drugs Podcast.

Check Aunt Bee on The Andy Griffith Show getting drunk on patent medicine.
Watch fake televangelist MarJoe in the documentary he made about the power of belief.
Derren Brown did the same thing without faking religion in his Netflix special.

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