…on getting locked into the challenge. Saul Rosenbaum is a prolific “late-night doodler” whose intricate and whimsical illustrations are eccentric celebrations of life and color. While you may know Saul from his illustration work, he has a storied career as a production artist, graphic designer and UX designer and he joins Ryan for a conversation about the importance of criticism, letting his illustrations out of his pen and how his work ended up in art museum gift shops across America.