Daniel Cowper returns to talk about his new novel in verse, Kingdom of the Clock. Andrew asks about writing long poems. It's a poetic chat!

Daniel Cowper is a poet and writer from Bowen Island, BC. His poetry has appeared in publications in Canada, the USA, and Ireland, including Arc Poetry, Vallum, Southword, and Barren, and has been long-listed for the CBC Poetry Prize. A chapbook of his poetry, The God of Doors, was published by Frog Hollow Press in 2017, as winner of its chapbook contest, and Grotesque Tenderness, a full-length collection, was published by McGill-Queens University Press in 2019. Kingdom of the Clock is his new novel in verse, out now with McGill-Queens University Press.

Andrew French is a poet from North Vancouver, British Columbia. They have published three chapbooks, most recently Buoyhood (Alfred Gustav Press, 2025). Andrew holds a BA in English from Huron University College at Western University and an MA in English from UBC. They have hosted this podcast since 2019.