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The law wants clean lines and final answers, but people live in grey areas. We sit down with Susie Miller, the playwright behind Inter Alia and the writer of Prima Facie, to unpack what “binary justice” does to real human stories and why courts can struggle when truth, trauma, and context refuse to fit a neat box. Drawing on her background in criminal defence and human rights law, Susie explains how the common law system can chase certainty like science, even when human behaviour is anything but predictable. 

From there, we move into the world where many boys are actually learning what power, sex, and relationships mean. Susie talks about the manosphere, online “bro culture”, and the way pornography has become a default form of sex education. We explore how consent myths survive, how “no” can be misread as part of a game, and why the lack of trusted adult conversations leaves teenagers competing for status rather than learning care, communication, and respect. The discussion gets practical and urgent as we examine how some extreme behaviours are being normalised and why silence from fathers, older brothers, coaches, and mentors can leave boys with only peer pressure and algorithms for guidance. 

We also dig into why theatre can be a powerful engine for social change. Susie shares what she learned in court about the force of storytelling, and why live performance creates a rare kind of community empathy that streaming cannot replicate. We touch on the audience reactions that surprised her, the responsibility men feel after watching the play, and a possible future work that interrogates juries and the myths we bring into the justice system. Subscribe for more conversations about law, gender, consent education, and cultural change, and if this one stays with you, share it and leave a review.

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