In this episode, the conversation centers on the critical role of operational technology (OT) security and the unique contributions of the S4 Conference. Dale Peterson shares his journey and insights into the challenges of underrepresentation in cybersecurity, especially for women and other groups, and highlights innovative scholarship initiatives aimed at bridging this gap. The discussion also delves into the evolving landscape of AI in cybersecurity, addressing both its potential and the complexities it brings. Listeners will gain valuable perspectives on managing cybersecurity risks, prioritizing investments, and developing effective recovery strategies in OT environments. As we look forward to S4 2025 in Tampa, Florida, this episode offers a glimpse into the future of cybersecurity and the importance of resilience in our systems