If you could start our society again from scratch, how sustainable would you make it? Would you build a new city at sea? Or develop a village in a valley? In this episode we look at two different ways some people are trying to start again. And how starting afresh doesn't always mean leaving old problems behind.

Featuring:

Matthew Daly - Research Consultant, Institute for Sustainable Futures, University of Technology Sydney

John Talbott, - Project Director, Narara Ecovillage

Jazz Mozzi - Admin Officer, Narara Ecovillage

Karina Czapiewska - Co-founder Blue 21

Raymond B. Craib - Associate Professor in the Department of History, Cornell University

Scilla Sayer - Community member, Narara Ecovillage