January 14, 2025:  After the news, we speak with Rev. Tracy Kronzak, MPA, Chief Strategy Officer at Benevolent Tech, about the biggest challenges and opportunities nonprofits will face in the next four years. Then we chat with David Rhode, author of Passion Isn't Enough: A Practical Guide for Nonprofit Leaders, who shares practical insights on nonprofit leadership and sustainability. Finally, in our "On The Road" segment, we explore the work of the Forestry and Fire Recruitment Program.