Charlie Arehart, Gert Franz, Mark Drew and Ben Nadel talk about "ACF and Lucee roundtable (Part 2)" in this episode of the CF Alive Podcast, with host Michaela Light.

"So this is part two of our panel discussion on Adobe ColdFusion and Lucee ColdFusion, or CFML, as they like to say. And if you haven't checked out last time, I'll put it in the show notes. But part one, we covered the ease of programming modern IDE, and open source versus closed source licensing differences. Some of the cool features in Adobe ColdFusion and Lucee, are ease of installation community in third-party tools and engine speed, scalability, and performance. So all of those topics, check out the first part. But this time, we're going to be talking about other things in Adobe ColdFusion and Lucee all the way cool places you can get documentation from how you can get help and support some of the podcasts out there. And engine updates. And we'll probably talk about some other things too because Gert gave us an extensive list of extra topics that we will work on fitting into the episode along with any other topics that Charlie, Ben, and Mark provided."

Show notes

Docs (links below): much more than just CFML Reference, for both

ACF

https://coldfusion.adobe.com/2017/11/did-you-know-theres-far-more-to-the-cf-docs-than-just-the-cfml-reference/ 

Lucee

Cfdocs.org

ACF and Lucee and different versions

Open “source” in that all can add examples

LearnCFinaWeek.com 

TryCFM.com

CFFiddle.org (ACF)

ACF CFML reference and tutorial (developer’s guide 3000 pages)

Adobe dox system - poor SEO / google search

Prior versions PDF of all docs

Good on keeping prior versions docs

Good on features in each release and hotfixes

Lucee weaker on new features in new releases

“Hacktoberfest Lucee bug month (October)

Charlies Hidden Gems posts and talks

Ortus open-source GitBooks

Learn CFML in 100 mins book

IDE help - color coding, hover help, F1 on keywords

Meta resource on CFML docs

Where do I get help (free & paid)

Paid Tech support

Adobe CF support programs

Lucee support by individual companies like Rasia, Ortus etc.

LAS donations for new features

Third parties eg Charlie Arehart, Mike Collins

Community support (free)

ACF

Adobe CF Forums community.coldfusion.com 

Adobe CF Portal

[email protected] (Free install support)

Lucee

Lucee Forum/Mailing list (Discourse)

[email protected] (contact Lucee)

Both

CFML slack

Limited retention of posts due to free version (paid would be many thousands of dollars due to per seat cost)

Mixed up topics as many folks don’t use threads

Linen exposes Slack content

https://cfml.linen.dev

Twitter

Facebook CF programmers group

Ortus Discord

SlackOverflow

Google searchable

Used by Ganter analysts in programming language reports

Tiobe index (supposedly rates “popularity” of languages)

CF usually ranks poorly

How it really works:

“Basically the calculation comes down to counting hits for the search query

+" programming"

From https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/programminglanguages_definition/ 

Conferences

IntoTheBox (in-person and remote, in Sept)

CF Summit (in-person and remote, in Oct)

CFCamp (postponed again for 2022)

Meta listing of them, with dates, locations, links

https://www.cf411.com/cfconf

How to find ACF and Lucee developers?

Drive for new CF developers

Bringing in other modern languages

CFML training

Meta resource of free CFML training resources

ACF cert

CFCasts.com

YouTube Ortus

Paid training:

https://www.cf411.com/cftrainers

Other CFML resources (meta resource of them):

https://www.cf411.com/cfres

Podcasts

CF Alive

Modernize or Die

Working Code, with Adam Tuttle, Ben Nadel,