In episode 115 of Write, Publish, and Shine, I talk with writer and educator Rayya Liebich about what it means to keep making art in a time of unrest.

We also talked about how she came to be the commissioned author for Room 48.3: Rest/Unrest, where I was issue editor. Our conversation circled on the idea of radical softness alongside rage as a way of refusing numbness and staying human-hearted. And Rayya shared her thoughts on how grief resists tidy arcs, and how to find structure when you’re working in lyric, collage, braided, or hermit crab forms, with grounded, oh-so-practical approaches and a luminous writing prompt titled “Dear Grief.”

I hope this episode invites you to make something and let the making be part of how you keep going.

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