Bob and Mel get to talk Wrath of the Lich King Classic with Brian Birmingham, the lead software engineer for Classic Wow. We discuss the length and timing of the pre-patch, how it has been going, some of the biggest hurdles, and their favorite things so far. We move on to cover the future of the Joyous Journeys buff, the queues on large servers, and server balance. We close out the episode talking about the decision to exclude random dungeon finder, badges awarded from quests and the potential ilevel changes in Ulduar or TOC/ICC.