Inspired by one of Dan’s recent blogs about Tiktok and its creator community, the Rogues talk around the challenge to create with a sense of fun amongst the mounting pressures of metrics, comparison and expectations in modern work environments.

Much easier said than done, they talk through different solutions and their own experiences of using these to keep fun a central part of creative endeavours. The guys also share some learnings from their respective music backgrounds, the effects of when the fun dried up and wonder if they could get Steven Segal on the podcast.