When we decided we wanted to include guests in season 2 mental health advocate, writer and founder of Bando, Jen Gotch was our first choice. She's hilarious, wise, and articulate and in this conversation Jen and Katie discuss the current moment & how it's impacting mental health, relationships and anxiety, travel anxiety, depression, solitude and more.

When we decided we wanted to include guests in season 2 mental health advocate, writer and founder of Bando, Jen Gotch was our first choice. She's hilarious, wise, and articulate and in this conversation Jen and Katie discuss the current moment &amp; how it's impacting mental health, relationships and anxiety, travel anxiety, depression, solitude and more.

12 The Upside of Being Down with Jen Gotch

Spiraling is an “optimistic” anxiety podcast. Co-hosts Katie Dalebout and Serena Wolf have candid conversations about how anxiety affects their lives and share how they’re managing it. In each episode, two anxious friends share what they’re spiraling about that week—from awkward interactions to business decisions and how to treat an unfortunate chest zit—followed by a deep-dive into different facets of anxiety and anxiety management. Filled with heart, insight, and an appropriate amount of profanity, this podcast is a love letter to anyone struggling with anxiety, reminding them that they are not alone, they are not weird or damaged, and they don’t owe anyone an explanation for their mental health.

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12 The Upside of Being Down with Jen Gotch

12 The Upside of Being Down with Jen Gotch