Joel and Kyle take this conversation to the moon with Jeff, an Aerospace engineer who has a very good working knowledge of academia, engineering, and what it means to perservere, through life's toughest challenges. Join this interstellar episode where we only actually talk about space for like, 5 minutes.

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