🎙 Episode Overview:

Season 2 is here—and we’re taking this podcast public. In this kickoff episode, we’re tackling one of the most frustrating dynamics in healthcare: the “Us vs. Them” mindset.

Whether it’s staff vs. leadership, nursing vs. admin, or bedside vs. boardroom—it’s a pattern that keeps teams stuck, burned out, and spinning their wheels. But it doesn’t have to.

This episode is about adopting a systems-thinking approach to shift from blame to collaboration, so we can actually make progress on the problems we care about most.

🔑 In This Episode, You’ll Learn:

• Why the “Us vs. Them” mindset is so common—and so limiting.
• How to use a two-step systems thinking approach to break out of the cycle:

1. Look at Yourself: How are you contributing to the dynamic?
2. Look at Others: What pressures, incentives, and beliefs are shaping their decisions?

• Why relationships are systems too—and how strengthening them makes every change effort easier.
• How to ask better questions, understand what drives other people, and build trust without over-explaining or overextending yourself.

🧠 Key Ideas to Take With You:

• Every relationship is a system. And when relationships work better, everything works better.
• Shift from frustration to curiosity. Ask yourself: What assumptions am I making? What might I not understand about their perspective?
• Find the overlap. Even when priorities differ, shared goals like better patient outcomes or team well-being can bring people together.
• Stop seeing people as obstacles. See them as part of the solution.

🎧 How to Listen to This Season:

This podcast isn’t just a place to tune in—it’s a place to learn. And here’s the thing:

• Every episode will add something to your toolkit, even if it doesn’t seem directly relevant to your role.
• The best changemakers are the ones who understand the bigger picture, not just their own corner of the system.

So stick around.

📣 Heads Up: Something’s Coming!

And I’ll be dropping an Easter egg at the end of the next few episodes. Today’s letter to collect is “M”. Keep listening—you’ll want to collect them all! 

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