A longer episode today for my chat with Zac Abroms of ViceRoyalty (Alice Ivy, Kate Martin, Face The Music) where we discuss everything we love about Camp Cope, Nai Palm, Cub Sport, Ukiyo & Eilish Gilligan, and I get an inside look at the process of Alice Ivy's recent single 'Chasing Stars' (ft. Bertie Blackman).

Intro & outro music is 'Coffee' by RKDA.

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