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120. Live, Pagh, Love (Kai Winn deep dive, part 1)

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Put on your best Opera House hat and join Anika and Liz as we dive into the first of a three-episode deep dive into Kai Winn Adami. This week, we're looking at her rise to power -- covering the episodes "In The Hands Of The Prophets", "The Circle", "The Siege" and "The Collaborator." And along the way, we discuss...

  • If you only watch the Winn episodes, and maybe even only the Winn scenes, DS9 is a really amazing show about two women fighting about religion and politics
  • "In The Hands Of The Prophets" - just because Winn is wrong doesn't mean the Federation is right
  • Winn asks questions the writers should have thought about themselves: why is a human the Emissary? Why should Bajor join the Federation? (Why is this botanist with no teaching qualifications running a school?)
  • Winn is the target for so much misogyny, and it says a lot about how fandom perceived and still perceives women in power.
  • Minister Jaro and Shaxs: the only sexy Bajoran men in the entire history of the planet (also we do not agree on how to pronounce Frank Langella's surname, but Anika's version is probably right)
  • Contrary to popular belief, Winn has integrity: she hates the Cardassians even more than she loves power, and is loathe to collaborate with anyone -- even the Federation
  • Unfortunately we have become Winn/Jaro shippers
  • "The Collaborator": Kira becomes the Vimes to Winn's Vetinari
  • Winn as a maternal figure for Kira, which is GREAT except when you think about what happened to Kira's actual mother and then what happens to Winn…

    • It's the episode where we realise we don't NOT ship Sisko/Winn...

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