Carrie Hott joins Kate to listen to a cassette tape of an underwater mall talk show hosted by two whales. Leo the crab makes an appearance. Plus Kate talks about being accosted by a guy at Minnesota Street Project. Most of the music in this episode is by Sonny and the Sunsets Monterey Bay Aquarium Sophia Cleary talk and performance at RTS Baleen on me when you're not strong. I'll be your friend. I'll help you Carrie on!