In this episode, Shelby sits down with the lovely Rita for a heartwarming (and slightly hilarious) chat about love, labor, and leadership. He’s the heavy lifter, she’s the captain of the ship—together, they’re navigating life one barn project at a time. Between stubborn streaks, shared dreams, and who’s really in charge, this conversation is equal parts endearing and relatable.

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