Eugene and Charis talk about Hey, the new email service created by Basecamp, and the issues of email in general. On the subject of work, they also talk about what going back to the office looks like in terms of necessary health and safety measures and the physicality of workplaces.

00:05:28 Hey and email services

00:26:24 Back to the office

Hey is a Wildly Opinionated New Email Service from the Makers of Basecamp by Casey Newton

Physical workplaces important for "preventing the loneliness epidemic in an increasingly digital world" says Vitra by Marcus Fairs