In this third episode of the Climate Resilient Development and Humanitarianism mini-series, Edwige Marty, a PhD candidate at the Norwegian University of Life Sciences meets with Jackson Wachira, a PhD candidate at the University of Nairobi. They examine the historic realities and enduring narratives on the arid and semi-arid lands in Kenya, the changing conflicts and livelihoods dynamics in Samburu, which are affecting humanitarian and climate change efforts, and the importance of research in deconstructing bias and evaluating whether responses are working or not and for whom.