In this episode, Mike and Zak reflect on growing up as Gen X kids, from Oregon Trail and mixtapes to encyclopedias and memorized phone numbers. Those experiences lead us into a bigger conversation about effortful learning and what it takes for ideas to really stick in math classrooms.

We talk about curiosity, productive struggle, and the importance of creating math classrooms where students are willing to put in the work of thinking. In a world where answers are always a click away, how do we design learning that helps students build understanding that lasts?