In the 13th edition of The Talking Shop Podcast I chat with Jordan Lips of @JordanLipsFitness. Recently starting out as an online coach, we discuss his journey from pre-law to personal training to where he is now. Additionally, we share anecdotes and sayings that show the simplicity in capturing the "low-hanging fruit" and how to get the most out of your efforts. Remember, we can all get better together. Here's what was mentioned:

-Motivational Interviewing in Nutrition and Fitness by Dawn Clifford and Laura Curtis

-Extreme Ownership by Jocko Willink

-WHOOP Podcast, The Art of Pitching Podcast Episode 9 with Kyle Boddy

-Author Mark Manson