Ryan-Mae McAvoy, VP of People Ops at Blackthorn, joins Gavin Johnston to share how she thinks about performance when a company is scaling fast, staying remote, and trying to keep trust intact.

We get into what managers actually need when “vibes” stop working - why Blackthorn treats bi-weekly 1:1s as non-negotiable, how to add guardrails without creating red tape, and why clarity beats ratings when you want fairness and real accountability.

In the Flow of Work exists to help HR leaders build performance systems that managers can run and cultures people want to stay in.

This episode was brought to you by Topicflow — the team building the next generation of agentic performance management.

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This episode was brought to you by Topicflow — the team building the next generation of agentic performance management.

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Gavin Johnston | Amin Palizban | Ryan-Mae McAvoy