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13. The Patriotism Episode: What Does it Mean to Love Your Country?
This is where things start to get uncomfortable. We are trying actively push ourselves out of our comfort zones on this podcast, and to do that, we are inviting more guests onto the show and letting them pick the topic. Our first real guest of the second season is named Luke Phillips and he identifies as a social conservative and economic liberal, and he suggested for this episode that we talk about patriotism. Things get deep: we talk about what it means to be an American, how patriotism differs from nationalism, whether you can be a patriot and still protest and resist your country's policies, and whether this act of resistance can in and of itself be a patriotic act.
Here's some more about Luke:
Luke Phillips is the opinion editor of for Better Angels, a bipartisan nationwide civic organization working to bring Americans together across our political divides. He writes essays and reviews about politics, policy, and American history at publications like The American Interest, Starting Points, and American Affairs. He went to the University of Southern California, where he was a member of the USC Trojan Marching Band, and occasionally volunteers with Scouts BSA, the organization formerly known as the Boy Scouts of America. As a good millennial, he works night shifts in a restaurant and lives in his parents' basement on his voyage towards lucrative employment and away from crippling debt.
Here are the articles Luke sent us in preparation for this podcast (These are not the titles, they are just Isabel's shorthand way of categorizing them):
Resistance Patriotism: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/07/resistance-patriotism-fourth-july/593344/
Patriotism vs. Nationalism: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-states/2019-02-05/new-americanism-nationalism-jill-lepore
(This article is behind a paywall - if you would like to access it, I am going to sneakily provide you with the credentials to my alma mater's subscription: user is [email protected], pass is Library18)
How to Think about Patriotism: https://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/how-to-think-about-patriotism
The Role of History in Patriotism: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/03/a-modest-plea-for-patriotic-history/555500/
In Favor of an American Canon: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/07/what-every-american-should-know/397334/
Music is The Beauty of Maths by Meydän.
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This is where things start to get uncomfortable. We are trying actively push ourselves out of our comfort zones on this podcast, and to do that, we are inviting more guests onto the show and letting them pick the topic. Our first real guest of the second season is named Luke Phillips and he identifies as a social conservative and economic liberal, and he suggested for this episode that we talk about patriotism. Things get deep: we talk about what it means to be an American, how patriotism differs from nationalism, whether you can be a patriot and still protest and resist your country's policies, and whether this act of resistance can in and of itself be a patriotic act.
Here's some more about Luke:
Luke Phillips is the opinion editor of for Better Angels, a bipartisan nationwide civic organization working to bring Americans together across our political divides. He writes essays and reviews about politics, policy, and American history at publications like The American Interest, Starting Points, and American Affairs. He went to the University of Southern California, where he was a member of the USC Trojan Marching Band, and occasionally volunteers with Scouts BSA, the organization formerly known as the Boy Scouts of America. As a good millennial, he works night shifts in a restaurant and lives in his parents' basement on his voyage towards lucrative employment and away from crippling debt.
Here are the articles Luke sent us in preparation for this podcast (These are not the titles, they are just Isabel's shorthand way of categorizing them):
Resistance Patriotism: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/07/resistance-patriotism-fourth-july/593344/
Patriotism vs. Nationalism: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-states/2019-02-05/new-americanism-nationalism-jill-lepore
(This article is behind a paywall - if you would like to access it, I am going to sneakily provide you with the credentials to my alma mater's subscription: user is [email protected], pass is Library18)
How to Think about Patriotism: https://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/how-to-think-about-patriotism
The Role of History in Patriotism: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/03/a-modest-plea-for-patriotic-history/555500/
In Favor of an American Canon: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/07/what-every-american-should-know/397334/
Music is The Beauty of Maths by Meydän.