In this episode, Keli speaks with her friend Heather about brains and coaching and self-compassion and the brilliance of their clients.

Go check out Heather's two podcasts: "Stop Being An Asshole To Yourself" (her solo pod project) and "Maybe Different Isn’t Wrong" (where she's a co-host). Check her out in all the places - subscribe to her podcasts and follow her on Instagram @stopbeinganassholetoyourself and @maybedifferentisntwrong and her website http://heatherthecoach.com/.