On this week's episode of the podcast, freeCodeCamp founder Quincy Larson interviews Jessica Chan AKA Coder Coder. She's a software engineer has worked in the field for more than a decade. Interestingly, she studied photography in school and never took a programming class.

We talk about:

- How she and her sister ran a dial-in Bulletin Board System (BBS) back in the pre-web days

- How her first year as a dev she "was just living in abject fear of losing my job."

- How she stayed at her first developer agency job for 7 years, and went from imposter syndrome afflicted newbie to getting promoted

- Her philosophy on creating programming tutorials: "You don't have to be on the cutting edge. I don't operate on the cutting edge."

Can you guess what song I'm playing on my bass during the intro? It's from a 1993 rock song.

Also, I want to thank the 9,779 kind people who support our charity each month, and who make this podcast possible. You can join them and support our mission at: https://www.freecodecamp.org/donate

Links we talk about during our conversation:

Jessica's 7-hour "How to Build a Website" freeCodeCamp course: https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/create-a-simple-website-with-html-css-javascript/

Jessica's coding journey animated video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA14r2ujQ7s

Kevin Powell, the "King of CSS", who has also shared courses on freeCodeCamp: https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/author/kevin-powell/

Jessica on Twitter: https://twitter.com/thecodercoder