Returning champion guest of the show joins me very late at night. We discuss the news about Brand New and Jesse Lacey, and how to let something you're a fan of go. It isn't fun but I wanted to get it out of the way and take my hat out of the Brand New ring for good. Then we have fun and discuss Kevin's interview with Brian Wilson, Lancaster living, terrible sleep schedules, a list of band name etymologies, movies, Moviepass, and much more!