In one of three bitterly-fought denials for rehearing en banc, the 9th Circuit let stand a ruling protecting homeless individuals from prosecution for sleeping in public spaces, when no shelter is available. But six dissenters called the decision 'badly misguided,' and another order 'absurd.' Professor Arthur Hellman visits first to discuss the use of 'dissentals' in this context, which one judge says is a lamentable 9th Circuit innovation that creates 'distorted presentations' of cases. Then, Public Counsel's Mark Rosenbaum discusses the legal and policy points of the public sleeping ruling, and its impact on LA's approach to its homelessness crisis.