Shelby, Rita, Ridge, and Joan pull up chairs in the barn studio for a deep, sometimes uncomfortable dive into flagellation: the ancient (and modern) practice of deliberately making ourselves suffer for spiritual reasons.

It’s four married people wrestling with guilt, grace, self-worth, and whether God actually wants us miserable or just thinks we’re hilarious when we try.

Raw, reverent, ridiculous, and real.

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