# Episode 136

**Summary:**

In Episode #136 Ari spends time speaking with [Drew Birnie](https://twitter.com/drewbirnie), Content Manager for Mark Manson. During their conversation, Drew and Ari cover what’s wrong in the science-media relationship and why a data-driven approach to self-improvement is the best way to bring about measurable results.

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