Pastor Michael led an intergenerational mission trip to Port Arthur, TX this summer to do some relief work from Hurricane Harvey. In this episode, he shares how he thinks the relief effort is going so far. But with any conversation about relief work comes the realization that charity is not the answer. The two pastors talk about the difference between charity and equality, and equality and justice. Listen in on a conversation about opening our eyes and our lives to vulnerable needs that are all around us.