We never thought we'd see the day, but a new Joss Whe.... oh yeah, well. It's technically created by Joss, but he stepped away. We talk a bit about the controversy and attempt to discuss the show unflavored by the artist. Not 100% successfully. How does the Nevers differ from an X Men series set in London? Let's find out! Plus 30 second Pitches, and Crossovers!

We never thought we'd see the day, but a new Joss Whe.... oh yeah, well. It's technically created by Joss, but he stepped away. We talk a bit about the controversy and attempt to discuss the show unflavored by the artist. Not 100% successfully. How does the Nevers differ from an X Men series set in London? Let's find out! Plus 30 second Pitches, and Crossovers!

137-2. The Nevers : episode One (HBO, HBO Max)

Each episode Hosts Chris Rider and Steve Waldinger watch the Pilot, or Episode One of a different Television show, both new and old, then discuss it from the perspectives of a fan and of a writer. Then they unfairly judge the entire series based on the one episode.

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137-2. The Nevers : episode One (HBO, HBO Max)

137-2. The Nevers : episode One (HBO, HBO Max)