Hosts Julie Slater and Jason Friday talk to Jason's cuz - Isaac D - who believes a man's goal post should be every changing, and sometimes you have to climb the peak of the mountain to see the next peak in which you choose to climb. Isaac tells us about his experience with recovery and chasing a real life after what he calls "a lifetime of questionable choices"…We chat with Isaac about his difficult past with drugs and alcohol and jail time...how he was reluctant to come onto the pod...what made him change his mind to be ready to chat with us...we go through Isaac's journey with trouble with the police...being naked A LOT...one woman who "checked a box" for him that changed his life...finding simple goals of getting an I.D., a bike, etc. - slowly growing his life/expanding to where he is now and what's ahead for his future...

IT'S 5 O'CLOCK SOMEWHERE...find out (or not, depending on if he answers) what rap song would explain his life...what pro skateboarders has been the most impactful to him...post-recovery, does he have any new guilty pleasures/vices...his thoughts on people who do yoga...and what he hopes his experiences in the past have taught him about his future.