Cyrine Nehmé is a Astrophysicist & European Consortium Scientist for MIRI/JWST-Scientist at CEA Saclay. Cyrine creates short videos that explain space and questions people might have in a easy to understand format on her YouTube channel and social media. Cyrine has been on the show many times and over the four years we have known each other its always a interesting fun discussion and this episode we talk about UAP and News media in its recent discussion into the topic of space and the unknown.