A former football player turnt a force for change in the football world in South Africa, we sit down with Cel to find out how she has navigated the male dominated industry and her experiences growing up in Alexandra as a LGBTQI youth.

We discuss the rich history of South Africa and how it is tied to education and the pedagogy of the oppressed mind. We engage in light hearted banter as the conversation takes a serious turn, highlighting thing like mental illness, Gender Based Violence and the legacy of apartheid.

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