We welcome back Kevin Heider (singer songwriter and host of the Song & Story podcast) to discuss the world's biggest young pop star, Billie Eilish. Kevin & Mike share stories from their high school and college days, sing some songs, make a LOT of 90’s music references, and discuss:

- What introverts want to say to extroverts

- Breaking up with girls to enter the seminary (and for other reasons)

- Drinking, drugs, self-harm, and being sober at a party

- Climate change & the devil

- Is sin the only way to get things done?

- Audio production

- Sibling relationships

- Self-deprecation and self-knowledge

- Edgar Allen Poe, Flannery O’Connor, CS Lewis, & Dostoyevsky

- and more!

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