In this episode, I’m joined by Erin Clark and Angie Hanson, two returning guests who have also become friends behind the scenes. This conversation is honest and grounding, grief, strength, and giving yourself grace when life feels heavy.

Angie and Erin share about the “both and,” how people can be strong and still feel fragile, and why giving yourself grace is not a cliché, it’s a practice. If you are carrying loss, supporting someone who is, or simply navigating a hard season, this episode is a steady reminder: you are allowed to be human.

In this episode, we talk about:

• The unexpected way Angie and Erin connected through the show

• “Strong” and “fragile” living in the same person

• Why grief changes you, but does not erase you

• How to hold space for yourself and for others

• Giving yourself grace, especially when you feel behind

Links

Erin Clark, How’s the Weather: https://www.hows-the-weather.com/

Angie Hanson, Butterflies and Halos: https://butterfliesandhalos.com/